LISTEN: “Turning Point” (Wayne Bent speaks from prison)
The imprisoned leader of the Lord Our Righteousness Church isn’t letting incarceration keep him from espousing his foreboding pronouncements from his familiar post in cyberspace. A new audio recording featuring the voice of Wayne Bent appeared on the LOR’s Web site today. It sounds as if it was recorded over the telephone.
In this latest recording, the convicted sex offender can be heard for 12-minutes and 57-seconds. Here’s one excerpt:
It seems like ages ago when they murdered my distant cousin, Charles Bent, the first governor of New Mexico. It was in Taos, the same dark town where they murdered me. They beat down his door, shot him, then cut off his head. They hated this new ruler who was over them.
Bent finishes-up his latest message with these words:
Angels now sing their songs, and the sounds of my prison are overcome in the music and melody of my Father. We will soon go away, and men will never behold our brightness again.
The entire transcript of the recording is posted on strongcity.info.
COMMENTARY
As I listened to Bent’s latest offering, I found myself reminded of a song by the late Johnny Cash. Bent’s oft-scratchy audio and the tone of his message seemed similar to Cash’s spoken words at the beginning and the end of The Man Comes Around (The first 20-seconds of Cash’s tune can be heard here) .
I went to YouTube and watched a few videos featuring The Man Comes Around. The first one included news footage of nuclear explosions, riots and the attack on the Twin Towers (although this video did not include Cash’s spoken words at the beginning).
Next, I went to Wikipedia to learn a bit more about the song I’ve often listened to on my iPod. According to Wiki:
The song is introduced by a spoken portion from Revelation 6:1-2 in the King James Version. This portion of Scripture describes the coming of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, each heralded by one of the “four beasts” first mentioned in Revelation 4:6-9. The first horseman rides a white horse. The musical portion then begins with Cash reciting that a man, presumably Jesus, will one day come to pass judgment. The chorus indicates that these events will be accompanied by trumpets, pipers, and “one hundred million angels singing”.
With such glaring reminders of the content Bent has posted on the Internet over several years, I had to wonder how his song might begin. That is, if Bent were to sing a song aimed at warning the world that he “will one day come to pass judgment.”
Yes indeed they certainly do appear in all their splendor. Thank you, Sam!
I didn’t put my correct email address in that last post (but, it was really from me).
About Wayne’s correspondence from prison. They go over letters according to some pre-set standards (there are certain forbidden subjects, which you can read about on the prisontalk.com.forums/) and they mark out with a black felt tip marker, words or sentences which they find objectionable. Probably, nothing he writes crosses their boundaries. But, I am surprised that they are allowing a prisoner to “post” on the internet (by sending letters out and making phone calls for others to record). My guess is they would probably revoke some privileges if they found out about that. Some of what he says might even be considered reactionary (or even terrorist-like). It is certainly political… I’m not sure if that’s allowed).
–Sam
I’m sorry, I should have mentioned that site is a bit “racy”. I was just surprised to see that Bent went on and on with the bloggers and most of the posts were down right vulgar (not from Bent). He kept throwing back and I’m sure he enoyed it. Hmmmm now I’m wondering if he checked out all the pictures and stuff on the site too??
Dear Anaiah,
I wrote the comment that you quoted on your little post. It blessed me to know that you are reading my little words.
I hope that you are investigated for your role in grooming minors to lay naked with your messiah.
Stephanie
How do we know that everything published on the Strong City website under Wayne Bents name is really him now?
Stephanie!! Are you the “someone who loves us” Anaiah is writing about? : )
All they do is talk about how much love they have for one another but they really are the most hateful group of people.
Diane, have you ever read some of the things Anaiah posted about encouraging consummation with WB? Some pretty sick stuff, imo, knowing it’s geared toward minors.
Yes I have Stephanie and I think the whole lot of them should be investigated. They should be in prison right along with Bent. I think that would be some type of child abuse or intimidation.
My daughter is now 25 years old and I can’t begin to tell you what I would do to someone that tried to manipulate her in that way. And I will say that it’s a good thing I don’t live in close proximity to SC because if I were ever to see Wendy Bent on the street I wouldn’t be able to help myself. That woman is disgusting and she really angers me.
From what we know about these people, that trial could have been so much more. The DA is lucky to have pulled off a guilty verdict.
Hi Diane, I’m curious, what is it about Wendy Bent that bothers you so much that she causes espacial nauseousness, as compared to others of this culture?
Diane, pardon my spelling, that should be “especial nauseousness”
Could you possibly be her??
It’s personal….
Diane, this is not Wendy, but I have known Wendy well in my life. Now I think that it was you who asked at one point, what Wendys mother thought of her? Well Wendys mom is a nearly 80 year old lady who hasn’t seen her in 15 yrs and has only had very sporadic contact, always ending in rejection for not recognizing Waynes spiritual authority and saviorship. Still Wendy is considered a very special gift from God by her mother and father. She has left a big void in a couple of old peoples hearts.
You know Diane, I am sure that Wendy would want to make things right if she could ever see the hurt and pain that she has participated in as it truly is, but I guess she can’t and she may never be able to. I know her folks would just ask that perhaps you might find mercy and forgiveness in your heart for her.
Regarding Wayne’s recent post,
Why Am I A Terror?
Wayne’s recent post begins:
This is very interesting and I have been thinking about this for the last couple days myself. I know of no one that fears Wayne Bent. Why would anyone ever fear someone that has such a twisted view of life? This is a man that had it all, a wonderful life, living in a beautiful part of our country, surrounded by a devoted following. But like so many ego driven men, he had to push his strange beliefs just a little too far and break laws that the State of New Mexico just could not look the other way and disregard.
But fear him? It seems the only people that have ever feared him were his own followers. Listening to some of those young girls and reading what the Witnesses said I could not help but feeling very sorry for all of them, that Michael has caused them to have such a distorted view of our wonderful country and this amazing world. Those poor people seem to be living every day with great fears, and now their leader is gone still trying to inflict his evil projections about society on his people. When was believing in God and Heaven ever meant to be such an ominous thing?
Wayne, you are now locked up where you seem to belong and I believe those dragons that you keep on trying to slay have thrown away your key for the next ten years and are no longer concerned about your terror. I seriously cannot think of one person in this whole wide world that fears you at all and maybe at some point you may realize this. I doubt it though because it seems that a spirit at some point did take over you, just not the one Wayne want us to believe in.
I think Wayne Bent wants to be feared, he wants to have power and his ego expands even in jail. I am surprised his postings are getting out. Some of the followers have posted comments, and I read that they think people want him dead, that no one will be satisfied “until they have killed his spirit” as well. I think jail can kill a persons spirit pretty effectively, but I doubt that anyone thinks about Wayne as much as they do and it seems they create all of these ideas to further their own agendas. I bet soon they will claim that “the mob” wants them all dead! Yet, they themselves yearn to leave this earth!
I noticed that there are no more postings about fasting – seems they finally learned to keep their religous fast private.
A man in my town was recently arrested for groping 2 12 yr olds in a Walmart – he grabbed their bottoms. He was sentenced yesterday to 25 years in prison. It was his first offense.
Excellent observations, Observer, I guess that is where you get your name.
The real problem for Wayne is that wanting the world to fear him does not equate with the world actually fearing him, and that is where his ego comes into play big time.
It is slowly dying though. Not sure if the faithful can see it but there is very little posting on the Strong city website now. Where is all the support and the believers outside of the Land Homeys?
They may have to kick in one of those “fasts,” to get the attention back.
That Walmart incident happened near where I live. 26 year old guy spending 22 some years in jail for groping bottoms and the girls were clothed. Looking at that sentence it would seem Wayne got off easy.
Jan, you said it so perfectly, thank you!
If you are referring to the Brian Terrell case, according to the news stories I have read, he was sentenced to 17 years.
Here is a link to that story (you have to copy and paste into your browser… live links don’t show here):
midlandsconnect.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=91302
I think his sentence was out of proportion to the crime (the victims were fully clothed and most likely were not psychologically affected). One year probably would have been more suitable. The article said that even, “Lexington County prosecutor Donnie Meyers called it a harsh sentence.” The article went on to say that he will be eligible for parole, but it didn’t say when.
Maybe this is a trend. Some might argue that sentences like these will serve a notice to sex offenders that they will receive no mercy. But, draconian sentences are simply dangerous to a society. Remember, the story of Jean ValJean in the quasi-historical novel Les Misérables, sentenced to 20 years in prison (served 19) after being convicted of stealing a loaf of bread. We don’t want to return to an era like that. My guess is that this one will be lessened on appeal.
We are better served for our punishment system to have sentences that provide some prison time (proportionate to the crime), but which allow some degree (and chance) of rehabilitation (not wanting to go back to prison can be a deterrent for many). A “lock ‘em all up” mentality to fight crime simply destroys lives which could be turned around, but are ruined with long terms in the prison system. Had he raped a child (or been a multiple offender), I could see a severe incarceration sentence, but his crime simply doesn’t rise to such a level. Neither does Wayne Bent’s sentence (a man who really needs to be humanely receiving treatment in a mental institution).
— Sam
No, Sam I was referring to the case of Harry Oyarvid, of Escambia County. He faces mandatory 25 years to life in prison on the charge of lewd and lascivious molestation of a child. Florida law also requires Oyarvid to register as a sexual predator.
I also doubt in jail he will get any mental help to address why he felt the need to fondle children.
Here is a link to an article about Harry Oyarvid.
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090306/NEWS01/903060324
That is rather remarkable, Observer. (I just now looked up the one you described). The similarity between the two cases is interesting. Both clothed. The girls in the “Oyarvid case” were a little older (8 and 12), but the offense again was just touching their “bottoms.”
What is also peculiar (or noteworthy) is that in some other countries (perhaps that guy wasn’t from the US), it is considered “ok” to touch girls on the rear (just one of their various strange cultural customs). In Italy, it goes on non-stop in public places (and it’s quite offensive to visiting American girls). In India it is very popular. It’s called “eve teasing.” In Greece (and perhaps Turkey), it is considered “ok” to lovingly pat a child on the bottom. This practice was formerly a custom here (seemed to disappear in the 60′s and later). Back in the 40′s and earlier, it was considered quite appropriate to affectionately pat and pinch babies and young children on their “tushes.” Once when one of my kids was just a baby, a very elderly woman saw him getting a wet diaper change in some public place. She said, “Oh, let me get a pinch of that cute little bottom.” We finished the diapering and moved away quickly. But, it was an awkward situation… although, I realized that she meant no harm; she wasn’t being “kinky.” That was just something left over from another era.
A man from Turkey (recently moved to the US) had to answer charges of “fondling” his own two year old daughter at a basketball game (it was put up on Youtube video). He was merely patting her on the hips throughout the game (much like you might pat someone on the back or pinch a baby’s facial cheek… hope they don’t make that illegal). He was not charged, but only after quite a public discussion about the propriety of it (he could be serving 20 years in another state or with other prosecutors).
Because of such cultural oddities regarding touching of children “on the bottom,” I think the police and the courts need to be sure that they are not being overly zealous in their prosecution. A warning or a suspended sentence might enough to make it known that the rules (and customs) here in the 21st century United States don’t permit any kind of touching of even clothed personal body parts. Public education does go a long way (they had to have to have training seminars to change the office scene regarding inapproprite touching), but regarding touching clothed bottoms… maybe a bit more publicity is needed on that subject.
— Sam
That should have said… “inappropriate touching.” I forgot to use my google toolbar spellchecker on that one. Embarrassing.
— Sam
Sam, I’m wondering if these guys might have prior arrests or convictions on their record. Isn’t that taken into consideration when sentencing someone?
Here’s the link to his court record if anyone is interested.
http://public.escambiaclerk.com/home/index.html
This whole subject is interesting in a variety of different ways. I am with Sam on some of these harsh sentences. I see a very unforgiving and punishment driven society.
Believe it or not, this has gotten so out of control my local Junior High, actually has a police officer on duty with an office in the school and situations that used to be handled by a Guidance Counselor, now sometimes end up before an officer, even reading young kids the age of 12 and 13 their rights. And this is a school in an upper middle class neighborhood.
So where we are going in our society with punishment and blame? I believe this is very scary and totally out of control. We might be headed for Les Misérables and the Media seems to be in favor of this approach to be sure.
I guess this is why I have been more of an advocate to a reasonable approach to pretrial publicity, a just and legally correct trial, fairness in sentencing and the rights for an appeal. From beginning to end every case has to be handled appropriately and legally, because there is just such a penchant for justice to be getting out of control.
As for the case against Brian Terrell, the article says this:
But of course if we are to believe the good Dr. Seigel, there are no first times! So who knows? But 17 years seems incredibly severe and this man would appear to be needing some psychological counseling not to be locked up for the best years of his life. I cannot imagine this affected these girls in a long lasting manner.
So, “locking people up,” and basically throwing away the key for many years and not working on fairness and rehabilitation just seems so wrong. I would not be surprised if this case gets corrected upon appeal. And who knows maybe Wayne’s will too.
Thinking about the way my last post ended, I may have given the wrong impression. I only believe Wayne’s case should be appealed if there is a viable reason. Under the law it seems he was in fact guilty. If there were errors in his trial, then those should be given their due consideration. That is all I meant, just to be clear.
I can see your view point Sam and I my thoughts on it all are somewhere in the middle with these long sentences for what some may view as a moderate offense. I guess I wonder if these harsh sentences are in place to set the tone of what one should expect if a person should touch a child not known to them or actually intend to molest a child.
I do agree that we could use our prison systems more positively and create a way to really reform people and treat mental illness. However, I personally feel people that are attracted to children are deviants, and I don’t know how one begins to address that issue or correct it.
Have you ever known anyone that was abused? I am sure some of you have. I have known way too many people that had experiences of sexual abuse as children. I cannot judge the impact of the abuse on their lives, but I know that there is one. I am sure those children had to go to the Police station and give statements & in some what their life was disrupted. I don’t think anyone can judge what kind of impact any abuse has on a person.
The stats for the trade on child pornography on the net is a testament to the situation that is very real threat to children. I believe in a high moral duty to protect children and hold adults accountable for their behavior with children.
What really struck me as strange in regards to Wayne Bent is that he said he knew it would bring trouble, and wrote about it and numerous followers wrote about it (and encouraged it). He was sleeping with most all of the women on the land – I felt it was very obvious he was grooming L.S. In order for her to have a spiritual healing experience she had to be naked – in his bed.
Pedophilia is a sickness that can only be treated if the patient admits he has a problem and will accept help. Is it even cureable?(I dont know). Jessica Lunsford’s killer, John Couey, had several previous convictions. In 1978 he recieved 10 years in prison(was out by 1980) for puting his hand over a girl’s mouth and kissing her during a robbery. In 1991 he exposed himself to a liitle girl and got 5 years( out again in 2 years).
As a young teenager, I had my youth pastor try to molest me. I went straight to the pastor’s office and told him, and they quietly let the youth pastor go. It affected me my whole life(still does). By the way, I couldnt tell anyone else, including my parents about it, until after I was married. I felt an incredible amount of shame and confusion. I always wondered “why me?”
We need to be tough on guilty people.
@Jan
“But 17 years seems incredibly severe and this man would appear to be needing some psychological counseling not to be locked up for the best years of his life. I cannot imagine this affected these girls in a long lasting manner.”
I wanted to comment on this part of your post. I was molested at the age of 12. For me, it did affect me in the long term. I developed panic disorder after the molestation. I went on to have relationship issues, and mistrust in men. I was afraid of dating. Afraid of men. My first marriage was to an abusive man. All of this even though I went through counseling in my teens. My parents were happy and are still very close. I had good role models for marriage.
This is probably why I feel badly for the victims. I know that it doesn’t go away. When you are molested at a young age, in your formitive years, it takes a sacred piece of you away. You feel as if you are ruined. It’s not easy to get past feeling like you are no good when this happens to you. You feel marked.
And I will agree that perps are not getting the real help they need. They need intense rehab, but they also need to be locked up. I would say that a year is not long enough. It’s not long enough to change a behavioral/psychological problem.
At the same time, I would also say that 10 + years is too long. The system is treating a mental illness with basic prison time. I don’t think they have the resources to treat them all properly.
And then there is the issue with the perp admitting he has a problem to begin with.
How would a country run by Islamic extremist handle sex crimes? Are we really draconian compared to that?
This issue with Bent is, did he know what he was doing, did he know when he was crawling into bed with a naked teenager, and if he knew what he was doing was wrong and that he shouldn’t have been doing it. He could have any psychological/psychiatric problem in the world, he is still responsible for what he did under the law. He knew full well what he was doing was wrong and he even said that himself.
Wayne’s writings:
This is just one of many quotes and writings of Wayne’s that to me would say he knew it was at the very least problematic! But he tries to make it seem as though it was his big sacrifice to go ahead and do what God asked of him.
So, if that is true, why then is he complaining and stating that the Court and the State treated him unfairly by his trial and sentence? It would seem that was all part of the religious process he believed would happen.
I like how Bent says that “God put it on them to ask for it”. I believe it was he and even Esther alluded to this in the NG program, Bent posted on their website about being naked with God. He was the one that planted the seed.
The power of suggestion gets exponentially stronger when you think the suggestions are coming from your “savior”.
and Wayne has known that fact all along!
Exactly!
I found this post on Prudence blog:
Looks like everybody’s trying to steal Wayne’s fire: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ind…ew& pageId=91097
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Sorry – that link didn’t work – try this.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91097
It’s been a little while since Wayne has posted anything else. I wonder if the prison put a stop to that. Also, Esther and Jeff seem to be kind of quiet also. I hope that the spell is starting to fade.
The God that I worship created the world, and he didnt need Wayne to diddle anyone to do it. My God gave me peace, again, without the need for Wayne to diddle anyone. I’m so glad that my salvation isnt tied to Waynes sex drive!
Could you imagine, if what Bent did was legal because of religious reasons, how many dudes would say they are “Messiah”!! “Where can I sign up”?!
I bet Esther is too afraid to share much more with the public eye now. I believe she is still having those phone check ins and the ones from the deputy.
The latest installment from Anaiah and WB are creepy. What do these people do all freaking day long? Lay on their beds and wait for something to happen?
It might do some of them some good to not be so lazy and find a job. Getting out to the real world might be a healthier alternative than sitting around with baited breath waiting for commands from WB.
Hi to everyone,
Having come to this story rather late, I am perplexed by a couple of things. Were there 2 groups of the “Seven”. Like maybe a group of older “7′s” and then later a group of j”ail-bait 7′s”? Is this Hanifa woman one of the 7? Also with regard to Esther and to Danielle…did they “consummate” or was there just the threat of that happening. I know about the “lie naked before God business”, but was unsure if it ever went further (I hope not!!). Thanks to anyone who can tell me what I have missed. I feel sorry for the younger ones who grew up this way and don’t know anything different.
Thank you,
Annaliese
Welcome Annaliese Seems no one can come late to this story as it goes on forever. As far as I can tell there was only just the 7 virgins not 2 groups of the 7. And Esther & Danielle were two of those that consummated with Michael.
One of the best ways that might help you understand the use of the virgins is the video that Strong City produced and had on line for a time. I believe it might be somewhere here in the threads that Mark has. It is called Experiencing the Finished Work by Strong City. If it is not on Beyond 90 Seconds it should still be at the Strong city mirror site. I will try to post the link here,
http: //strongcity2.info/videos.html
be prepared though that video can give one the chills.
I was not able to watch the complete video (the Finished Work) it was so sickening!
Hi Analiese,
Yes, there were 2 groups of 7. Right after Jody and Debbie became the 2 witnesses, a group of 7 women were chosen to be the 7 messengers. That group consisted mostly of older women and there were people outside of our community that made remarks to us such as, “Oh, are you seven going to sleep with Wayne next!” Interesting though, nothing ever happened with that group of 7, at least nothing sexual.
Then came the “lying naked 7″ that were all young and virgins.
But even that last 7 seven changed. Because 2 were minors, Wayne dropped them out of the public picture and replaced them with the original 2 witnesses, Jody and Debbie. Then it changed again by Wayne dropping out 2 more and replacing them with Wendy and Beth. In the end though, he married them all (sex included) which involved Esther and Danielle.
Anyway, hope that helps! It may just get more confusing though!
Julie,
Thanks for answering Analies’s question about 2 groups of 7 virgins. Although I have to admit I am more confused than ever!
Hi Julie,
Thank you for answering my questions, and I did watch the video on the mirror site. The video was rather enlightening. I notice that towards the beginning of the video, Wayne talks about there needing to be an “intimate and sexual” relationship with him (Jesus in the being of Wayne) in order to be saved. I wonder where that puts the men and boys in the group? Also, most strikingly to me, where does that put the women who are not as attractive as the seven. It seems that if this were truly of God, Wayne would be an “equal opportunity consummator”. He only appears to make the “sacrifice” of the consummations with those that don’t look like mud fences. The woman called Hanifa (is she the mother of Esther?) she never made the grade…why not? There are also other women who are seen in pictures and in videos who are a bit “homely”. Why is it that Wayne never hears the call to be intimate with them? This proves to me that Wayne’s intentions are more fleshly than spiritual. I am not sure if he has truly deluded himself or if he is a charlatan, but either way, it is best that he can’t go back there. People in the world are also sleazy, but the difference to me is that he holds a power over them by virtue of their belief that he is the only one who can lead them to salvation. This is an abuse of power not different than a teacher with a student, a doctor who decides to get a little too friendly with a patient or a priest or minister with a member of his flock.
Annaliese
PS: If you aren’t a very good-looking man, but have a healthy libido, it appears that becoming “Jesus” can make you popular with the chicks. If adults choose to live this way, great, but when you start grooming underage girls to do some sort of “spiritual horizontal mambo”, be prepared the spend a little time in jail!!
I have just published on my personal blog a post entitled, “Free Wayne Bent!” Those who have followed my postings here know that, while I have endeavored to see that the facts of this case (and true circumstances of his misdeeds, which I found to be disgusting and repugnant) were made public, I consistently maintained and advocated prior to the trial, during the trial and prior to sentencing that Bent should not have to serve time, but that he should be subjected to merely house arrest (of course, with conditions not to have contact with minors) Please read what I have to say now about the unjustness of his sentence and my feelings about how this represents a dangerous trend in our society. Click the link on my name (to the right) to go directly to my blog.
Free Wayne Bent!
— Sam
While I agree that WB’s sentence is too harsh, I also do not think he should be freed to serve time at home. He should at the least spend the rest of this year incarcerated, undergo psychiatric evaluations, treatment, and psychotherapy. He should be released and ordered five years probation, where he must continue treatment and evaluations through the court.
Minors should not be allowed near him. Which means, no minors can remain in SC ie: Willow.
He is mentally ill and needs help.
I also feel that the women, Hanifa, Anaiah, Wendy Bent, etc need to undergo investigation and submit to psychiatric evaluations and be court ordered to treatment. They are in part, responsible for the grooming process so that these young minors would give themselves over to WB.