Bent 'scripts
Two frequent contributors to the comments sections of this blog have teamed-up to post written transcripts of the Wayne Bent trial on the Internet.
Sam Redman and Jan Brennan are publishing the transcripts at Redman’s Strong City “mirror site“.
According to Redman’s mirror site, the names of the victims will be redacted from its published transcripts.
Redman is not simply an observer of the Bent case. He appeared on the prosecution’s witness list as a computer forensic expert. He did not testify, however.
According to the mirror site, Brennan is a true crime author and a romance novel book reviewer.
On December 15, 2008, a jury in Taos, New Mexico found Bent guilty of one count of second-degree criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Fifteen days later, the leader of the Lord Our Righteousness Church was sent to prison for ten years. He’d received an 18-year sentence with 8 of those years suspended.
As of this writing, the transcripts provided Online include preliminary motion discussion, the prosecution’s opening statements, defense attorney Sarah Montoya’s opening statement, Montoya’s direct questioning of Wayne Bent and closing remarks from the prosecution and defense. The prosecution’s rebuttal to Montoya’s close is also provided.
Expect more to come.
“We will be adding daily and the plan (lord willin’ and the creeks don’t rise) is to do every last word in the trial from gavel to gavel (including Wayne’s last comments, as he is taken from the courtroom in cuffs). Everyday, there will be more,” Redman wrote to Beyond90Seconds.com in an e-mail received today.
On January 27, 2009, Beyond90Seconds.com addressed its concern about posting the trial “transcripts”. After ordering the transcripts from New Mexico’s Eighth Judicial District, they arrived as audio files on seven CDs.
Reached by telephone, Union County Court Deputy Clerk Karen Vieites explained that the court usually preserves transcripts as audio—not text—files.
While this blog could have posted those audio files, the decision was made not to do so because the names of the victims could be heard throughout the audio recordings.
The considered tasks of removing the victims’ names from seven days of court audio or transcribing the audio and redacting those names would be too time consuming for this blogger.
For reasons of time and sensitivity to the victims, Beyond90Seconds.com decided not to post the transcripts here in any form.
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BACK AT THE RANCH…
Wayne Bent’s son, Jeff, has published a new post at strongcity.info. Find out what has Bent & “Esther” drawing a line in the sand, here.
You are welcome, Mack. Kudos to Casidi for alerting us to that flaw. There must be a lot of “lurkers” here, because looking at the mirror site’s stats today, we had a rush of firefox, safari and chrome users, after making that announcement.
And I am pleased to announce another transcript:
We just posted the transcript for the re-direct and cross of Dr. Seigal. His testimony really fit that old saying, “With friends like that, who needs enemies?”, because he actually gave the jury a reasonable answer to the question of why some guy in his sixties might start doing bizarre sexual things, when he hadn’t all his life previously. He explained that it could have happened because of some kind of mental or brain aberration. He was attempting to prove the opposite, but, in my opinion, he just gave the jury something more to help them understand how this guy might have done something which a logical (sane) person wouldn’t do. There is hardly any other way anyone could justify as reasonable behavior, doing something as weird as having young girls lie in your bed naked as a “healing” exercise. Siegal gave the jury a way to see how that might have happened. I’m sure Montoya was cringing.
This is the new transcript:
Cross and Re-direct of Dr. Ned Seigal
Scroll to the first post here (at the top) of Beyond90seconds.com to see how to access the mirror site trial menu page.
More transcripts coming soon.
— Sam
That should have been spelled Seigel in the previous post.
What is an expert?
After writing up Dr. Seigel’s testimony, I am honestly wondering how Courts define the word “expert.” I suppose one can get a degree or two, have an ongoing long term practice or profession and be able to testify in a court of law, and in addition charge a fee and be paid. Is this an expert? How sad!
Dr. Melton and Dr. Dinsmore were very impressive witnesses and the word expert seemed applicable. The last couple days working on Dr. Seigel was rather disappointing. Do some people when they are testifying in a trial that involves some one’s freedom not take their role as a witness, seriously? It would seem for Dr. Seigel it was almost a joke. After the judge on day one admonishes the courtroom about snickering and humor, Dr. Seigel continued to seem amused about many not so funny items, in his own testimony.
But what was so apparent, was his lack of preparation. He was one of the few that could see both Safe Room interviews, but chose not to bother. I liked how Chavez brought out all the evidentiary items that Dr. Seigel could have used but never bothered: websites, postings, indictments, the notes from Child Youth and Services, amongst other things. All the Dr. kept focusing on was the raw data, like data not people would make him understand this case more.And then the people he deemed were important, and the only ones he talked to were those still living on the Land. He talked to Michael’s faithful followers, that was it!
What was the most shocking was his total and complete lack of even knowing who Michael Travesser was. He actually had it in his notes that he was dead! Prosecutor Chavez really could not even question him as he should about many of the important case details because this so called, “experts,” complete lack of knowledge of anything pertinent to understanding what happened with the two girls. The man even said ten virgins, not seven. He even said he hoped he would not have to study the Bible to testify. Well Dr. a little studying might have helped!
And as for grooming which he kept trying to make a huge point of, I never got the feeling that Dr. Dinsmore even focused on grooming. It seems that in the traditional sense grooming with predators and pedophiles begins in their early years. This case is totally unique it is not really in my opinion about a traditional sex predator. It might be as Sam suggests, about a man who has lost some mental capacity (his recent posts certainly indicate that ) and Wayne/Michael’s actions would follow none of the test cases in psychotherapy for predators and pedophiles. In fact this case might add a whole new chapter to the books for the mentally ill. They can call it the Messiah/Michael syndrome.
The point is that Dr. Seigel was no expert. He had no knowledge really of anything, not the religious aspects, not the sociological aspects as a charismatic leader, nor any idea about what happened with A.S. and L.S. and why.
I guess the saying that you get what you pay for holds true. And the Defense obviously was working on a limited budget. But Wayne you should have dipped into your vast coffers and come up with a little more because this man undoubtedly aided the State and helped to lock you up in that Cell you have now found so very unpleasant.
Jan
Jan …you are so right about that witness. I think he was the one that I wrote a note to the judge asking him what the purpose of him was he was totally confussing. The judge read the note and kinda snmiled and pretty much cut him off. I could be wrong I thought it was Dr Oleary but I think it could have been this witness
Sam has some very interesting information posted on his blog. Jaw dropping, eye opening and a must read!
Studies from the book, “People of the Lie,” by M. Scott Peck helps explain exactly the why and hows of the LOR “church”.
This also gives good insight into what/why Mr Bent is doing now by writting such vitriolic and hate filled rants.
(Is anyone really reading these other than his followers? Is getting a little boring!)
I think we would all gain a clearer understanding of what has taken place there in SC as well as other organizations.
The most telling part is under the heading “Understanding human evil”.
Dr. Gauen,
Thank you for the information. I’d like to speak with you on the phone. If you’re agreeable to it, please send me an e-mail w/your phone number so that I may reach you. My e-mail is info@markhorner.com.
Best,
Mark
Juror, Dr. Seigel certainly did ramble on. So many of these Defense witnesses seem to be doing this. I am sometimes surprised at how much they allow the witness to say. Or perhaps it is just that Benevidez is just not objecting when he should. For some reason I thought a witness was just supposed to respond to the question and not offer their own thoughts beyond that.
I was so impressed with Dr. Melton. I have a feeling I will feel the opposite about Dr. O’Leary. Much the same as the difference between Dr. Dinsmore and Dr. Seigel.
I guess I will know pretty soon, as Dr. O’Leary is who I plan to be working on next.
Jan… Good luck with Dr O’leary I think he was the one that rambled on. I’m courious which one was worse.
BTW…You and Sam are doing a great job…Keep up the good work and thank you to Mark for such a interesting story. I’m glad i found this website and look forward to other stories.
We are pleased to announce another transcript.
We just posted the transcript for the re-direct and cross of Dr. Stephen O’leary. His testimony was actually quite interesting. He is a Harvard PhD in religious studies. He gave some very interesting historical parallels, regarding similar (to Wayne)strange religious practices involving “lying naked with naked members of the opposite sex,” some even done by Gandhi.
This is the new transcript:
Cross and Re-direct of Dr. Stephen O’leary
Scroll to the first post here (at the top) of Beyond90seconds.com to see how to access the mirror site trial menu page.
We only lack two testimonies (the Wayne Bent followers, Gabriel and Allaso), which will be coming soon.
We also plan to include a transcript the judge’s instructions to the jury. Once it is all done, you will be able to read it all in sequence and then (assuming you can think like a jury member should) reach your own verdict.
—- Sam
Dr. O’leary’s testimony seems to be completely irrelevant to this case. Human sacrifice was a ancient religious practice, but I’m pretty sure that the current laws of New Mexico wont allow that either. Also, Dr. O’leary obviously has not looked deep enough into Wayne’s brand of religion that involves consummation. He is not testing his celibacy!
Also, this case is not about religion, it’s about the law.
Does anyone know if and when NG will air Bents trial?
Diane
I am trying to understand your question “NG,” airing the Bent trial. Who are you referring to? Is this a new Court TV channel?
Ron
The DA was quick to point out that Dr. O’Leary really had very little knowledge of this group or Wayne. He observed the State’s case before he testified I think that was it. Nothing of any depth was even brought out at this trial. They are lucky they got a guilty verdict.
When you read the first page of Wayne Bent’s publication called, “The Vision” (in the archives on the mirror site) and the booklet written by the so-called, “Two Witnesses,” (soon to be in the archives) who were the first two (married) women Bent had sex with, it makes you see how this was all just a very sick, long term practice of Wayne’s lust taking him over. Six years went by between his committing adultery with the first three women (the third was his son’s wife Wendy) and his finally coming up with his seven virgins scheme, designed to play his game all over again (“They came to me, it’s their idea.” and next, “But, oh, I can’t do it, it’s wrong..” then, “Oh, but God is making me”). When you read the “The Vision,” it is clear that Bent planned to have sex with all the virgins (including the three under-aged girls, willow, LS and AS). That is what “The Vision” was (which he had Gabriel and Allaso and Trudy verify on that first page of “The Vision” document). So, the lying naked wasn’t a “healing”… what a bold faced lie that was. It was the preparation for the upcoming sex. He did the exact same lying naked with each of the four other virgins (those of legal age), prior to each of their “consummations.” It was only flack from Prudence Welch and her sister Elsa Sayer that called a halt to his having sexual intercourse with those under-aged girls. Jeff had done some research in the New Mexico law after Prudence started squawking and Jeff was very concerned (we learned that in the BBC video) about the legality. Bent then came up with the alternate plan of saying that the three old re-treads, the “two witnesses” and Jeff’s wife, could stand in for the three under-aged girls. Once you know that whole sequence, saying what was said on the stand, that this was a healing exercise, required lies by Bent (and others). The defense case was based on that lie and the lie that Bent was not the leader.
The lying naked was purely and simply grooming for sex… nothing more. None of that information (about “The Vision” and how it was revamped to be 3 old gals and only four of the virgins, following the fuss raised by Prudence, was never heard by the jury.
I agree with the poster, Search for the Truth. It is actually remarkable that the prosecution got a conviction, which they probably could not have done without Bent’s own testimony and the creative prosecution interpretation of the law regarding touching of the breast (from the hand on the heart).
— Sam
NG – National Geographic. I had thought someone said Ben Anthony had been covering the trial for a program that would air on the same channel the initial program was on. Inside a Cult?
I had said before that this trial could have been so much more. I’m so glad that Sam and Jan have taken the time to transcribe the court transcripts so we can see what actually went down in the courtroom. I think the DA was lucky to get the guilty verdict.
I had forgotten all about that Diane but you are correct Ben was there to do a film about the trial. Maybe Mark has contacts there and can find out.
Thanks Sam, reading these transcripts reveals a whole new level of the word incompitence and attorneys.
You are doing us a great service by posting them on line.
National Geographic (NG) will be airing a sequel to their original documentary on Strong City. I’m not sure when but I thought I heard late this spring. They were at the whole trial and interviewed many people and I believe they also were allowed to film parts if not all of the trial.
Can’t remember for sure, it’s seems like a long time ago although it really wasn’t.
As far as Dr. O’leary’s testimony, it was interesting but I don’t believe had any relevance to the case that was being tried. Gandhi’s practice was for his spiritual edification not his followers.
The two defense witnesses really didn’t come across very strong in their knowledge of SC. They definitely were educated and had good information but not about SC and it didn’t seem to help in clearing WB of the charges against him.
Although there was much left out of the trial, excluded by the judge after objections from both sides, there was still the evidence from the two girls. It was indisputable that they had lain naked with WB, he admitted it as well. The difference in the girls experiences, how it made them feel; A.S. felt violated, L.S. in love, seems to have been one of the deciding factors and perhaps the most important in the verdicts. I’d be interested in what the juror thinks!
Interesting isn’t it that Dr. Seigal said (the link isn’t working Sam so I can’t get the exact wording) that sexual predators always say it was the “first” time. In this case, according to “The Vision” it looks like he started grooming the girls and women at SC at least 6 years before his encounter with the underaged girls. So, it really WASN’T his first time as a sexual predator when he invited the naked girls into his bedroom. He was just more subtle than most other sexual predators.
I agree that WB’s own testimony might have also played a part in the convictions. And the Trevino precedent gave the jury leeway to consider their community standards of decency and propriety as they tried the facts of the case.
To KM —
You can refresh the trial menu page to get the recently corrected links. We had spelled Seigel’s name wrong.
Or here are the actual (new) links (copy and paste… it won’t let me do real links):
strongcity2.info/defense_direct_drseigel.html
strongcity2.info/pros_cross_dr_seigel.html
— Sam
Thanks Sam!
It’s been 2 or 3 weeks since I last checked in w/Ben Anthony. Yes, the sequal to “Inside a Cult” is expected to appear on the National Geographic Channel this year.
KM, I believe you’re correct. As I recall, the targeted air date was some time during the first half of this year.
Bottom line, no word yet concerning an exact air date. But it could be only weeks away.
When I get a chance, I’ll check-in w/Ben Anthony to see if he has any new info to pass along about the air date.
After my post above, a friend wrote me and told me the following information, which corrects an error that I made in that earlier post:
I really appreciated that correction. I would have given attribution to my secret informer by name, but I didn’t get permission to do that… but, I will tell you that she is a very excellent person who knows a lot about the strange world of Wayne Bent. We all would learn a lot if she would post here.
— Sam
Ron – Did you tell her we are all good people here?
I thought it was hysterical when Bent described how he was thrown to the floor in pain which was the indication to him the consummation with Wendy was
imminent. Ugh, that is just not right on so many levels!
According to the NM Courts site Jeff and Wendy Bent’s divorce was final on 12/14/06.
Wouldn’t want to commit adultery or anything like that so it’s better that everyone gets divorced. Then it’s no problem fornicating with anyone you want!
Add another “Ugh” for me Diane!
Diane, not sure what you are referring to, but I would be glad to tell the world that there are some really great folks here at Beyond 90 seconds!
Ron, I am just guessing here but perhaps who Diane meant to refer to in her post was “Sam,” not you Ron. He was speaking about someone that is very knowledgeable with all the facts and details on Strong City, and they apparently read here but do not post.
I think that is what Diane meant. Not sure though.
But I agree, I think this has been an awesome place to post, with some amazing contributions by all.
Jan
That’s what I get for trying to work and blog at the same time! Sorry, I meant to address to Sam.
He has a friend who knows a lot about Bent and we could learn a lot from her. I get you both mixed up
and that’s probably because you both crack me up!
Sam – did anyone ever tell you that you look like the cute hippy grandpa from the “Lost Boys”??
I think so!
KM – Double UGH! My mind just bends when I hear her name.
Divorce
The dissolution of the marriage tie was regulated by the Mosaic law (Deut. 24:1-4). The Jews, after the Captivity, were required to dismiss the foreign women they had married contrary to the law (Ezra 10:11-19). Christ limited the permission of divorce to the single case of adultery. It seems that it was not uncommon for the Jews at that time to dissolve the union on very slight pretences (Matt. 5:31, 32; 19:1-9; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18). These precepts given by Christ regulate the law of divorce in the Christian Church.
Easton’s 1897 Bible Dictionary
These people do not recognize this societies authority to regulate their lives, except as the regulating entity would be in agreement with their interpretation of things. The bible does not purpose that marriage and divorce are human activities that derive their legitimacy from civil authority. But rather, they are sacred decrees, truly governed by spiritual prerogative, and LORites know this. Therefore civilly administered marriages and divorces are nothing more than a means to an end for the LORites. Judges, legal documents, weddings, families, children and the like are seen as babylonish nonsense, only to be used when it is advantageous to the their cause. Obviously what this means in the case of Wendy and Jeff is that there are other militating circumstances behind the dissolution of their marriage, besides a mysterious incident involving Wayne rolling around on the floor receiving esoteric messages from on high. I think this poor Jeff mentality that exists is bestowing too much dignity on him. If we read between the lines we can see things emerge that only a raunchy novelist would think up. Remember, nothing happens by accident in Waynes world.
I have not heard one person here ever say anything about “poor Jeff”.
Diane –
Many posters on many threads about Wayne Bent on the Beyond90seconds.com site have expressed sentiments which could be characterized as being, “poor Jeff” comments. Many of those observations have centered around the travesty of Jeff being deprived of his wife through a bizarre religious rite and then his own dad having sex with her (something forbidden by God in the Levitical law – an abomination to have sex with your daughter-in-law). Many people commented about how sad and dejected he looked in the BBC video with his head against the wall, while Wendy and Wayne were going on about their sordid sexual liaisons. Other forums have echoed similar opinions that Jeff is in a very pathetic position, giving up his wife and trying to keep in his dad’s good graces.
My own opinion has always been that Jeff is one of the doubters there, who doesn’t really buy into all of this. Many are probably there for the free room and board, but I think that Jeff is hanging on so he can eventually get his hands on that vast Bent Family Trust… but, that’s just my impression.
— Sam
Implicit in any discussion on the supposed perverse relationship that Wayne and Wendy have had, is the idea indelibly stamped into our consciousness of Jeff sitting there with his head in his hands looking so abused and dejected in the Ben Anthony film. Those who have been following this for far too long, remember the “Let’s Save Jeff’ campaign that appeared on the travesser.info site after the story first began to gain exposure. This fixation keeps showing up on blog after blog. On this blog it manifests like this, “sex with his daughter-in-law,” but really if Wayne, Wendy and Jeff were people in your circle of acquaintances, you would probably be a lot more generous with your estimate of their relationship, especially if you knew the details, such as was adultery an issue, where there sexual incompatibility problems or a myriad of other things that bedevil marriages? Which really is none of our business. However that would answer a lot of our questions about this particular matter. Their relationship becomes trivial when placed along side the many moral oddities, broken societal norms and down right deviant behavior that the whole LORite community is intoxicated on, all the while trying to force our consciences for not imbibing in their kookiness.
Very many Christians diverge from biblical correctness as far as divorce is concerned and we accept them warmly into our fellowship.
It is strange how we all see the character of Jeff Bent differently. I have noticed all the time while doing these transcripts how noticeably absent his name is in any of the discussion of the land. One would think that the son of the Defendant would have a much more prominent part in both the tale and would have appeared as a character witness for his dad.
I guess my feelings when I viewed the National Geographic video were not those of Jeff being exactly embarrassed regarding his wife, although there may have been some of that to a degree. But it just seemed to me that he always appears somewhat distant from what is going on. It is like he realizes he must be there, but all the while you sense that he is not a true believer but more watchful and aware of the trouble this all is causing.
It seems that he is stuck in some middle road area for which he refuses to actually try and talk sense into the people and their very strong beliefs, as was the case when Esther was fasting. That would have been a clear time to have spoken out and tried to break from this insanity. But he did not of course do that. He seemed to genuinely care about her though, but went with it. I would imagine the way it turned out was a relief to Jeff.
However, and I honestly cannot say any more than my instinct here, but I just doubt that Jeff is a big believer in some of this. His absence of postings all over the web, his guarded demeanor on that video, his not testifying at the trial just make me think that Jeff perhaps is a step ahead of the rest. I do not know motivation beyond that. Maybe it is just the simple fact that he loves his dad, but sometimes even when we love someone we still do not approve nor condone all their actions.
As for his former wife and his dad … That whole situation really only would add into “Jeff’s not buying into it.” For me it does not cast any negative on Jeff because any woman that would do that, Jeff is well rid of, to be sure. I felt in the video that was where Jeff appeared more distant and disapproving than dejected. It was almost like he could see where this was all headed and the future was not looking to good to Jeff.
Since Jeff is pretty close to the vest, I guess we will never know. Unless of course Jeff decides to write one of those “tell all,” books about the land. Now that one I bet would be a best seller.
Jan: “his not testifying at the trial just makes me think that Jeff perhaps is a step ahead of the rest”.
Jeff did testify for his dad just not before the court. Instead we see him going with the grandmother and aunt of the pawns in this case, to be interviewed by one of the defenses “expert witnesses”. These are two of the rest that he must stay ahead of, and by the way it all necessitated a divorce, a special sacrifice to arrest the attention of a dedicated ex-wife and the rare toleration of a noncompliant virgin.
Jan: “For me it does not cast any negative on Jeff because any woman that would do that, Jeff is well rid of, to be sure.”
If we dig back into the writings that were posted regarding Wendy and Jeffs breakup, we will find that Jeff was the one who insisted that the marriage was over some time before the consummation with the final seven candidates, of which Wendy was one.
Jeff was the one who said that he was not a “good” person, I believe him.
Jeff was interviewed by Dr. Seigel, along with Aliah the grandmother, Liberty, Tiara, and Deanna. Other than help to form the opinions of the doctor there is no clear way to know what they said, because none of that testimony was ever discussed. It must not have been very worrisome to the State because they were to also interview these people before they did their cross examination. None of it was brought up by Emilio Chavez.
If Jeff was not a good person in his own eyes, that sounds rather typical of these people. For some reason they all have this negative belief in themselves which causes them to do all these bizarre things to be “saved,” and later hopefully to be “translated,” to heaven. Nothing Jeff did though, in my opinion, could be as bad in the eyes of God, (the real one) as what Wendy did.
As I said, it is just my opinion, and I certainly could be wrong. Since Jeff has remained rather quiet through all of this it is hard to tell. But perhaps too there is a reason why he is rather circumspect in his comments regarding it all. And maybe some day we will know more, about what Jeff truly thinks, as ten years is a long time for dad to be gone.
Jan: “Jeff was interviewed by Dr. Seigel, along with Aliah the grandmother, Liberty, Tiara, and Deanna. Other than help to form the opinions of the doctor…”
The good doctor testified that Waynes actions were harmless, acceptable human behavior. Jeff was engaged in helping him come to that conclusion, I’m sure. That doesn’t sound like an unbeliever to me.
Jan: “It must not have been very worrisome to the State because they were to also interview these people before they did their cross examination. None of it was brought up by Emilio Chavez.”
The state didn’t want to prosecute this case from the beginning, just like they don’t want to follow up on obvious other criminal activities that took place regarding this incident. You do realize that considerable pressure was applied to get them to act. I think that citizens of New Mexico should be either concerned or relieved depending on which side of the law you are on. Is Union County an area that is sympathetic to polygamous groups? Let’s just hope that the child molesters of the world aren’t paying attention.
Jan: “Nothing Jeff did though, in my opinion, could be as bad in the eyes of God, (the real one) as what Wendy did.”
Somehow I find it rather amazing that an ex law enforcement officer who possibly has been an accessory in the criminal sexual abuse of minors, contributing to the delinquency of minors, depicting the sexual abuse of minors on the internet and to have been within days, if not hours of participating in the death of people, can find empathy from any one. But it doesn’t stop there, he disposes of his wife like a piece of sh-t after twenty years, the best twenty years when, beauty and vitality are at their peek, to be ravaged by people like me and doesn’t even have the courage to answer. Yes Jeff is a fine piece of work isn’t he. And to think that Wendy is worse. WOW.
Hmmmm,,, I thought Jeff did testify on stand in court. I thought Allaso was Jeff. All the names get me confussed. I guess I will find out after all the trial has been posted.
Jeff did say in the NG film that he was not a good person, or an evil person. He also said he burned all his bridges. I wish he would have elaborated on that.
WhisperWind, did Jeff really dispose of Wendy like a piece of sh_t? Do you really think that? From what I’ve read on their website, she was sitting outside of Bents window for weeks and weeks and weeks praying (asking) for it. WB admitted to having sex with her many times. It doesn’t seem to me that she was very heartbroken over Jeff.
Juror, No, I have completed Allaso and that definitely was not Jeff Bent. His full name is currently Allaso Michael Travesser (how many Michaels and Travessers do they have?) No wonder it is confusing. His former name was Kevin Howard Jones. He says he has known Wayne Bent for about 15 years. He had a very interesting “healing,” experience with Wayne, which was the focus of his testimony.
I do believe that Jeff made a statement on his dad’s behalf on Sentencing Day, but I have not listened to all of that yet. Eventually I hope we will have that day posted too, as well as the last few witnesses. It is a coming!
And if you read some of what Wendy has posted, she certainly seemed to be very aggressive in her pursuit of “Dad!” It was very important I believe for her to be one of the Seven.
All this talk about Jeff Bent got me to thinking, has he ever taken a “special, meaningful name,” like all the rest? Everything I have seen from him always seems to be signed, Jeff Bent.
We are pleased to announce another transcript!
We just posted the transcript for the direct (and cross and re-direct of Allaso Travesser. This man is a long time member (follower), who was brought on to tell how he also had healing excercise with Wayne. His was fully clothed on Allaso’s living room floor. He tells how he kissed Wayne on the mouth. It was hard for me to see how they thought this witness would help the defense’s position. I think he only helped the prosecution and he did that repeatedly. I am anxious to hear other opinions.
This is the new transcript:
Defense direct of Allaso Travesser (plus cross, et al).
Scroll to the first post here (at the top) of Beyond90seconds.com to see how to access the mirror site trial menu page.
We now only lack one testimony in the trial (the other Wayne Bent follower, Gabriel), which will be coming soon.
Other transcripts will include the judge’s instructions to the jury and later, the sentencing session.
—- Sam
Have you gotten to the person that was the keeper of all the automobiles? or maybe I should read allaso’s first? I remember Allaso he was the healing on the floor I think it was in waynes house and fully clothed
Diane: “ WhisperWind, did Jeff really dispose of Wendy like a piece of sh_t? Do you really think that?”
OK, maybe that is slightly too dramatic. I am sure Jeff doesn’t have horns, a pointed tail and a pitch fork, but Jeff was the one according to what I read that told Wendy they weren’t married. From what I knew of Wendy she wouldn’t sleep around. Jeff on the other hand, I’m not sure about. He has a sketchy past.
Diane: “From what I’ve read on their website, she was sitting outside of Bents window for weeks and weeks and weeks praying (asking) for it. WB admitted to having sex with her many times. It doesn’t seem to me that she was very heartbroken over Jeff.”
Waynes process of arriving at suitable supplicants took years and it was after Jeffs declaration to Wendy that their marriage was through and they were separated for some amount of time that the conciousness of the “consummation” began to materialize.
Search for Truth
Your question wondering about Jeff taking a new name caused me to begin a search. What I found is rather sparse and unconvincing that he really did this as the others have in a significant way.
I found only three brief references to another name by Jeff. One actually was in a post that EMC did right here in this thread on February ninth.
The second discovery was on Sam’s Mirror site (he actually assisted me in finding this one) in a thread called the “Poor Jeff Lie.” Jeff’s own comment follows:
Finally on the Strong City site in “Esther Returns,” Jeff shares an email that came from Esther, it begins:
So to a limited degree Jeff has been referred to as Uriel, Benjamin and Brother Beans. What seems rather clear though is that in the manner the others on the land seemed to have sensed the need to acquire a new name with some spiritual or faith driven significance, Jeff Bent appears not to have followed this path.
Jan
Thankyou Jan for that information on Jeff. Seems that he does hold back somewhat from following the scripted path of the Land. Not taking a special name perhaps is an indication.
I am wondering if they have curtailed Wayne’s little prison sermons to the faithful. It has been almost 2 wks and I see now a new post, but from Anaiah.
Whatever will the world do without Wayne’s updates?
Aniah has posted the following on the SC site – The Sacrifice Required For Our Deliverance – Part 1
One huge correction and it probably changes my thoughts on Jeff Bent and his use of a meaningful name. His use of Benjamin and the fact that he is often referred to as such, really is quite significant. Benjamin in the Bible was an extremely important character. He was the son of Jacob and the founder of the “Tribe of Benjamin.” So Jeff apparently did follow the same path as the others.
Sorry for the confusion, I better return to my Transcripts.
To Search for Truth —
That posting by Anaiah (also known as Jody Thompson/Gratitude/Anaiah/Mother/and one of “Two Witnesses”) has a recording and transcript of a telephone call from Wayne from prison.
It is actually quite sad. I feel sorry for him there (as most who read here know, I think that he should not have been imprisoned, but that he should be just on house arrest). He is making every effort to accept his fate and justify his “strange” behavior, having sex with the seven women and the Two Witnesses (not to be confused with the two witnesses at the trial, but the two older married women, who were his first two sexual partners).
Poor Wayne. I guess self-deception is a tool to deal with unpleasant realities. Maybe that will work for him. I am surprised that he seems to imply that is not getting visitors, not seeing his “bride.” Are they not sending a couple of people down for every visiting day?
— Sam
Sam, it’s a good 300 miles to Los Lunas from SC. And he has to request certain people be put on the visitor’s list and they have to be approved before they can visit. Maybe there is a limit to the number of people you can request? And depending on what section he is in the visitation days differ. I don’t know if it’s open visitation or behind a plexiglass wall talking through a phone which wouldn’t be much fun.
It is pretty sad as I’m sure it’s lonely being locked up. When I read the prison forum chat I’m sad for the families left behind, especially the children.
That said, he could be making it easier on himself by getting involved with different programs or like you suggested, tutoring other inmates. There are many programs available but maybe he isn’t ready to try them.
I get confused about where Wendy fits in. She wasn’t one of the 2 witnesses, so was she one of the 7 stars, virgins, angels or whatever?
I respect everyones opinion, and I’m not trying to be argumentative, but I still think sympathy for Wayne is a little misplaced. I can only see him as a manipulative SOB, and he is reaping what he sowed. Also, the man has shown no remorse, and as far as I can tell, will never accept any help unless it is to re-enforce his messiahship. If Wayne was under house arrest, he would continue to control their minds and rail against the world( Iknow he still does, but hopefully with a little less impact) Forgiveness does not mean that punishment is bypassed. Most of us know that if Prudence had not stepped in , those girls would have had to consumate with that old goat. And if mental illness garners sympathy, then Jeff Dahmer and Charlie Manson need some too.
I totally agree with Ron. He is a convicted sex offender and the last place he should be is under house arrest where there are young children!
As I said before, he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was wrong and now he is being punished for it. He knew full well it was wrong and HE STILL DID IT! If having a big fat ego is a mental illness, he doesn’t have that either. He took advantage of his position and those beautiful young girls.