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	<title>Comments on: Church&#039;s Web site:  Wayne Bent arrested</title>
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		<title>By: Johnny Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for me to unload, so please bear with me.  Every child on this planet grows up in a chosen environment.   The average American kid has zillons of opportunities, rich and poor alike, depending on what side of that dollar bill they stand.   The effects of television and what it allures to are a powerful influence to all.   Drugs, fashion, science, education, religion, comedy, Mom and Dad, relatives, friends, enemies all have their role in fashioning the minds of today and tommorrow.   So what has Strong City done that is so wrong?   Did they shield their youth from the known evils of our day?  Do not the residents of this world pretty much have a good idea of what is good and bad?  Most of what we know in this life is taught to us by the previous generation.  I am a 54 year old baby boomer.   My grand parents were the industrial age which got this mess started in the first place.  My parents were the fruit of everybody wanting a &quot;big&quot; piece of that pie which my grand parents first baked.  Two world wars were fought as everyone in these two generations scrambled around to and fro to get in line and get their piece of that pie.   The smoke stacks belched their cause and effect into the sky and the waters were no longer sweet enough to drink anymore because as the waste products of greed and corruption went everywhere and affected everyone.   My generation was the hippys, the flower children, and the druggies.   we saw what our grand parents did and how our parents built the war machines and profited from it all, and we as a generation said, &quot;Hell no, we won&#039;t go!&quot;  But we threw our garbage still onto the ground, we laughed at &quot;All in the Family&quot;, bitched and swore at the condition of the world, but generally we did nothing to help matters at all.   My generation formed co-ops, gated communities, 7-11s and Circle K&#039;s on every corner, and we drove out Mom and Pop stores and businesses, and Walmarts are now everywhere.  We threw ourselves into our music and rock and roll was born.  Whites beat up on blacks, and racial tension exploded, against all people of color.  Gays came out of the closets, and todays politics are only a reflection of most of the people&#039;s mindsets.  Censorship on the television is something of the past now.   Sex, war, drugs, music, crime, disease, are all around us, and now these things are the norm.   And to think it was safe to pick up a hitch hiker in the 1940&#039;s and 50&#039;s, and to leave your door unlocked, in those good ole days......
Todays generation has to now pick up the pieces, and they are pissed.   My generation was lazy and would not work like the generation before me.  I mean we kept the ball rolling, but we didn&#039;t want to go past that 8 hour work day.   We wanted to get back to our debt, credit cards, 3 car garages full of toys and junk not made in America anymore.   Todays generation has to fix what we broke, and we did not give them a set of instructions.   Many of them can&#039;t even read right.   They don&#039;t know what a broom and shovel is, or even how to take out the trash.  They are marvels on their I-Pods, and computers, but who are going to do the heavy work nessessary to clean up the planet?
Things look bleak everywhere, and nobody is willing to take responsibility for anything, but everyone is willing to blame somebody else for the troubles.... But the truth is, &quot;I DID IT ALL !!!!&quot;, and I did have a little bit of help from all of you.

This is what Strong City taught me, and what we taught our children.   This is why they want to leave this world behind.   No space ship this time.   They want God to whisk them all away.   I can clearly ee what the children of Strong City was shielded from.  They were loved in a very special way, but seriously, they are so heavenly minded, that they are of no earthly good.  This is what we created at Strong City.  This is why they are leaving, one way or another.  The world drove them away, and they are done.  This is how they are dealing with their own responsibilities in their part of creating this mess this planet is in.   They know they all were guilty as charged, and is their solution to their cases.   Somehow all of us must deal with it as well.   We are all mortal men, and we are all in the same pickle.   May God have mercy on all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for me to unload, so please bear with me.  Every child on this planet grows up in a chosen environment.   The average American kid has zillons of opportunities, rich and poor alike, depending on what side of that dollar bill they stand.   The effects of television and what it allures to are a powerful influence to all.   Drugs, fashion, science, education, religion, comedy, Mom and Dad, relatives, friends, enemies all have their role in fashioning the minds of today and tommorrow.   So what has Strong City done that is so wrong?   Did they shield their youth from the known evils of our day?  Do not the residents of this world pretty much have a good idea of what is good and bad?  Most of what we know in this life is taught to us by the previous generation.  I am a 54 year old baby boomer.   My grand parents were the industrial age which got this mess started in the first place.  My parents were the fruit of everybody wanting a &#8220;big&#8221; piece of that pie which my grand parents first baked.  Two world wars were fought as everyone in these two generations scrambled around to and fro to get in line and get their piece of that pie.   The smoke stacks belched their cause and effect into the sky and the waters were no longer sweet enough to drink anymore because as the waste products of greed and corruption went everywhere and affected everyone.   My generation was the hippys, the flower children, and the druggies.   we saw what our grand parents did and how our parents built the war machines and profited from it all, and we as a generation said, &#8220;Hell no, we won&#8217;t go!&#8221;  But we threw our garbage still onto the ground, we laughed at &#8220;All in the Family&#8221;, bitched and swore at the condition of the world, but generally we did nothing to help matters at all.   My generation formed co-ops, gated communities, 7-11s and Circle K&#8217;s on every corner, and we drove out Mom and Pop stores and businesses, and Walmarts are now everywhere.  We threw ourselves into our music and rock and roll was born.  Whites beat up on blacks, and racial tension exploded, against all people of color.  Gays came out of the closets, and todays politics are only a reflection of most of the people&#8217;s mindsets.  Censorship on the television is something of the past now.   Sex, war, drugs, music, crime, disease, are all around us, and now these things are the norm.   And to think it was safe to pick up a hitch hiker in the 1940&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s, and to leave your door unlocked, in those good ole days&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Todays generation has to now pick up the pieces, and they are pissed.   My generation was lazy and would not work like the generation before me.  I mean we kept the ball rolling, but we didn&#8217;t want to go past that 8 hour work day.   We wanted to get back to our debt, credit cards, 3 car garages full of toys and junk not made in America anymore.   Todays generation has to fix what we broke, and we did not give them a set of instructions.   Many of them can&#8217;t even read right.   They don&#8217;t know what a broom and shovel is, or even how to take out the trash.  They are marvels on their I-Pods, and computers, but who are going to do the heavy work nessessary to clean up the planet?<br />
Things look bleak everywhere, and nobody is willing to take responsibility for anything, but everyone is willing to blame somebody else for the troubles&#8230;. But the truth is, &#8220;I DID IT ALL !!!!&#8221;, and I did have a little bit of help from all of you.</p>
<p>This is what Strong City taught me, and what we taught our children.   This is why they want to leave this world behind.   No space ship this time.   They want God to whisk them all away.   I can clearly ee what the children of Strong City was shielded from.  They were loved in a very special way, but seriously, they are so heavenly minded, that they are of no earthly good.  This is what we created at Strong City.  This is why they are leaving, one way or another.  The world drove them away, and they are done.  This is how they are dealing with their own responsibilities in their part of creating this mess this planet is in.   They know they all were guilty as charged, and is their solution to their cases.   Somehow all of us must deal with it as well.   We are all mortal men, and we are all in the same pickle.   May God have mercy on all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/10/30/churchs-web-site-wayne-bent-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-747</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnny i just returned to the web site and i would like to just say god bless you and no matter how old we get we should never stop learning and always keep an open mind, it is the key to light, if given a certian situation we must always look for the direct opposite to get a better image or &quot;defined mind picture&quot; i know sometimes it may seem like im very opinionated and im working on that sometimes i forget that others may have yet to experience what i may have and i take it for granted that they should know something that they may not and i would just like to comment about america and freedom of religion., im raising this in genuine care and not to persecute, during your time with the group religion was the driving force of day to day life and i feel this is substantiate along with meetings, home study, talked about during adult conversation, and i suspect not asked of the kids to do the same, lets just say that for arguements sake, well given this example or image, what choice did the children have to religion??? how could they not be forced?? Thier whole existance is surrounded by this and how can they refuse when they see adult authority figures recieving praise and great admiration from others at the camp??Any child would literally be sucked into a blackhole of prophetic teachings and i know what i am going to say now is up for debate but to stare into the dark cave of the mind endlessly by a child that has no life experiences could destroy thier ability to recognize realities, im guessing johnny that you had life experience before the group and this may have been the reason for your ability to leave and function out of the group allthough i know its hard and i want to say that when they persecute you and im sure they do, ask yourself this, would a true friend do me this way, someone that really has my back,wand why do they need to do it, well its not to chastize you i can say that, but it is an attempt to hurt you ,blame you for what they themseleves have done as they must feel shame for what they have done to you for some period of the day, it may be only a minute or so but its enough and then they go back to denial and blame,          god bless you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnny i just returned to the web site and i would like to just say god bless you and no matter how old we get we should never stop learning and always keep an open mind, it is the key to light, if given a certian situation we must always look for the direct opposite to get a better image or &#8220;defined mind picture&#8221; i know sometimes it may seem like im very opinionated and im working on that sometimes i forget that others may have yet to experience what i may have and i take it for granted that they should know something that they may not and i would just like to comment about america and freedom of religion., im raising this in genuine care and not to persecute, during your time with the group religion was the driving force of day to day life and i feel this is substantiate along with meetings, home study, talked about during adult conversation, and i suspect not asked of the kids to do the same, lets just say that for arguements sake, well given this example or image, what choice did the children have to religion??? how could they not be forced?? Thier whole existance is surrounded by this and how can they refuse when they see adult authority figures recieving praise and great admiration from others at the camp??Any child would literally be sucked into a blackhole of prophetic teachings and i know what i am going to say now is up for debate but to stare into the dark cave of the mind endlessly by a child that has no life experiences could destroy thier ability to recognize realities, im guessing johnny that you had life experience before the group and this may have been the reason for your ability to leave and function out of the group allthough i know its hard and i want to say that when they persecute you and im sure they do, ask yourself this, would a true friend do me this way, someone that really has my back,wand why do they need to do it, well its not to chastize you i can say that, but it is an attempt to hurt you ,blame you for what they themseleves have done as they must feel shame for what they have done to you for some period of the day, it may be only a minute or so but its enough and then they go back to denial and blame,          god bless you</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/10/30/churchs-web-site-wayne-bent-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grow up, people! I didnt make all of those silly claims about the world ending or becoming the Messiah. How many people have followed what they think is voice of God, only to find out that they have been listening to themselves.
   Did anyone change? Did the World end? I&#039;m sorry if pointing out these facts makes me seem uncaring about these people. But just like a drug addict, sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom to change your mind.
  I respect everyones right to state their opinion, but dont expect everyone to sugar coat the truth, sometimes the truth hurts and it still needs to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grow up, people! I didnt make all of those silly claims about the world ending or becoming the Messiah. How many people have followed what they think is voice of God, only to find out that they have been listening to themselves.<br />
   Did anyone change? Did the World end? I&#8217;m sorry if pointing out these facts makes me seem uncaring about these people. But just like a drug addict, sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom to change your mind.<br />
  I respect everyones right to state their opinion, but dont expect everyone to sugar coat the truth, sometimes the truth hurts and it still needs to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Tabatha</title>
		<link>http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/10/30/churchs-web-site-wayne-bent-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tabatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tell Jeff that the spaceship is full of Heaven Gate folks, so there is no room for the Strong Cult folks on the 10/31 to Glory.&quot; - Ron

Mark Horner, your &quot;news blog&quot; has turned into nothing but a nasty tabloid. This comment you have allowed to remain up is extremely cruel, ignorant, and insensitive to those who love and care for the people at Strong City.

Ron, you are simply chomping at the bit to mock this entire situation every chance you get. I&#039;m praying you find some compassion and decency to respect how others could be feeling right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tell Jeff that the spaceship is full of Heaven Gate folks, so there is no room for the Strong Cult folks on the 10/31 to Glory.&#8221; &#8211; Ron</p>
<p>Mark Horner, your &#8220;news blog&#8221; has turned into nothing but a nasty tabloid. This comment you have allowed to remain up is extremely cruel, ignorant, and insensitive to those who love and care for the people at Strong City.</p>
<p>Ron, you are simply chomping at the bit to mock this entire situation every chance you get. I&#8217;m praying you find some compassion and decency to respect how others could be feeling right now.</p>
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