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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the followers at strong city., you are truly loved and precious beings and if jesus were here today, he would want nothing more, but only to save your life,as the written word states when jesus moved among the people he brought no suffering and only healed the people.,  if all around you seems dark and evil with hopelessness forever then you need to get out of there as this is the spirit of death lingering., as you look all around you at the suffering on the faces of loved ones you are looking at the death mark., dont accept this mark on your spirit and it will leave your physical body and you will truly be saved., six feet of spirit lost and six feet of body six feet under the earth is not going to be the right answer.,please save your soul and allow it to be nurtured and delivered the way it was destined to be by god as it is no mistake that you are here., when god first created heaven and angels lucifer turned 1\3 of the angels against god and those turned were cast out of heaven and so now we must go thru a flesh exisistance and thru this we find our way to where we go and heaven is at peace as promised on our arrival and help me to stop lucifer from winning this in new mexico at strong city., please help me ., you know what to do,,, just leave ., wait ., the new direction will come., you cant see it now its blocked., you have to put the first foot forward and god will follow as we have CHOICE WHERE WE WANT TO BE., NO ONE CAN STOP YOU., JUST LEAVE., THE DIRECTION WILL COME IF NOT INSTANTLY THEN JUST BE PATIENT   SOMETIMES IT TAKES MANY DAYS BUT BE SURE IT WILL COME AND THRU GODS WAY OF TEACHING YOU WILL BE DIRECTED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the followers at strong city., you are truly loved and precious beings and if jesus were here today, he would want nothing more, but only to save your life,as the written word states when jesus moved among the people he brought no suffering and only healed the people.,  if all around you seems dark and evil with hopelessness forever then you need to get out of there as this is the spirit of death lingering., as you look all around you at the suffering on the faces of loved ones you are looking at the death mark., dont accept this mark on your spirit and it will leave your physical body and you will truly be saved., six feet of spirit lost and six feet of body six feet under the earth is not going to be the right answer.,please save your soul and allow it to be nurtured and delivered the way it was destined to be by god as it is no mistake that you are here., when god first created heaven and angels lucifer turned 1\3 of the angels against god and those turned were cast out of heaven and so now we must go thru a flesh exisistance and thru this we find our way to where we go and heaven is at peace as promised on our arrival and help me to stop lucifer from winning this in new mexico at strong city., please help me ., you know what to do,,, just leave ., wait ., the new direction will come., you cant see it now its blocked., you have to put the first foot forward and god will follow as we have CHOICE WHERE WE WANT TO BE., NO ONE CAN STOP YOU., JUST LEAVE., THE DIRECTION WILL COME IF NOT INSTANTLY THEN JUST BE PATIENT   SOMETIMES IT TAKES MANY DAYS BUT BE SURE IT WILL COME AND THRU GODS WAY OF TEACHING YOU WILL BE DIRECTED</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/10/22/judge-wont-hear-from-bents-alleged-victims-prior-to-trial-date/comment-page-2/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless the people at strong city now and those that have recently left for your desire to find your way to god and piety is your witness to your true spirit., in acts peter when asked how to find god truly without deception., explained that god channels to those who read the word themselves.,                                                                                                     2pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation
2pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2pe 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
2pe 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
2pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:


2pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
2pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless the people at strong city now and those that have recently left for your desire to find your way to god and piety is your witness to your true spirit., in acts peter when asked how to find god truly without deception., explained that god channels to those who read the word themselves.,                                                                                                     2pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation<br />
2pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.<br />
2pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.<br />
2pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.<br />
2pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;<br />
2pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:<br />
2pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.<br />
2pe 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.<br />
2pe 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;<br />
2pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;<br />
2pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:</p>
<p>2pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;<br />
2pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.<br />
2pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.<br />
2pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.<br />
2pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.<br />
2pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/10/22/judge-wont-hear-from-bents-alleged-victims-prior-to-trial-date/comment-page-2/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I asked them that question over and over when several members talked to us at great length on the Heathen Hub.  Not once would anyone acknowledge the question because it cuts too close to home.  If it was only about healing and not about sex why don&#039;t the men and older women need that kind of healing?  One time when I asked about the men I was told that it was a homosexual abomination.  That wouldn&#039;t be true if it wasn&#039;t about sex.

The other question that no one would answer was whether or not they would commit suicide if &#039;Michael&#039; wanted them to.  The only answer that I could get was that only satan&#039;s voice would tell someone to kill themselves.  I guess that somehow they&#039;ve redefined suicide.

No matter how strange their cult is I&#039;m having a terrible time accepting that those people that I talked to could be dead very soon.  I hope so much that &#039;Michael&#039; tells them to stop this fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I asked them that question over and over when several members talked to us at great length on the Heathen Hub.  Not once would anyone acknowledge the question because it cuts too close to home.  If it was only about healing and not about sex why don&#8217;t the men and older women need that kind of healing?  One time when I asked about the men I was told that it was a homosexual abomination.  That wouldn&#8217;t be true if it wasn&#8217;t about sex.</p>
<p>The other question that no one would answer was whether or not they would commit suicide if &#8216;Michael&#8217; wanted them to.  The only answer that I could get was that only satan&#8217;s voice would tell someone to kill themselves.  I guess that somehow they&#8217;ve redefined suicide.</p>
<p>No matter how strange their cult is I&#8217;m having a terrible time accepting that those people that I talked to could be dead very soon.  I hope so much that &#8216;Michael&#8217; tells them to stop this fast.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolly, you have an interesting arguement.  What do you think of this part of Healed&#039;s testimony:

&quot;That night I went to Michael’s house. He was in bed. I went in and I was talking to Him, and I asked Him if I could lie next to Him on His bed.
He said I could but He told me that He first wanted me to ask my mom and dad. He told me that He always does things the RIGHT way. It was hard for me because I didn’t feel like I wanted to wait later, but I did. The next day I called my mom and dad and asked them about it. They HESITATED at first but then I told them I was not asking to be naked with Michael. I was asking to with both of our clothes on. They agreed to that. I felt unsure what I wanted. It was in my heart to lay naked with Michael, but I did not think I could and I was afraid to. My mom and dad could tell I was unclear what I wanted. That evening I went and said good night to Michael and told Him what my mom and dad said. He agreed also.&quot;

A few days later (after yet another of her peers has slept with Wayne) she writes,

&quot;I went to bed that night with it strong on me to lay naked with Michael. All the time since Michael shared with us about Danielle and Esther lying naked with Him I desired to lay naked with Michael. And when He shared about Moriah it became not only a desire, but that I had to lay skin to skin with Michael. At times I would be lying in my bed and it was almost like Michael was in my bed with me holding me skin to skin with Him. This particular night I was lying in my bed and I had been reading things in my journal. After I was done I was lying there and the desire became so intense that I did not want to be in my bed anymore. I wanted to be in Michael’s bed with Him. I wanted to lay naked with Michael so much that I thought about calling my mom and dad that night and asking them if I could. I thought that I would share it with Michael and see what He would tell me. I went up to His house. I went and stood at His window. I remember giving the desire to Father, and it was ok if He did not give it to me. I was out there for about half an hour then Michael called out the window and asked if someone was there. He asked me if something was on my heart and I said yes. He told me I could come in. He told me the he was just about to sleep and he heard a cracking sound, and He thought He would call out the window to see if anyone was there. He asked me what was on my heart, so I told Him. He asked me what I thought it would do for me. I told Him I didn’t know except that I needed something, something deeper. I was lying on His chest and He then said to me,
“You may.” I didn’t move. I thought for some reason that He was spiritually speaking or something. He then asked me if I was scared and then I realized He really meant it. I said,
“You really mean it? Right now, take my clothes OFF?” He said, “YES.”
I said, “But I thought you said I had to get permission from my parents first?”
He said, “Yes, but I remember they said they trusted Me. That is enough.” I said, “So I really can, right now?” He said, “Yes.” So, I jump off His bed, strip my clothes, and jumped in bed with Him. It felt so natural to me and it did not feel weird, almost like I had done it many times before.&quot;


Do you think a 13 year old, raised in this closed off environment, has the knowledge to know whether or not she is being touched in an innappropriate manner?  When all of her peers &amp; adult mentors are doing the same thing?  Is she not feeling peer pressure?  She self-admittedly states she is confused before it happens?  Do you not think her parents &quot;trusted Wayne to do the right thing&quot; and NOT touch their daughter?  Could he not have touched her....oh, say...forehead, and healed her?  And this one has not been addressed in any forum: Why did only people of the female gender get skin to skin?  Is it pure coincinence that the only people that needed healing or to be part of the &quot;religious parable&quot; (nice one, Jeff) are female???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolly, you have an interesting arguement.  What do you think of this part of Healed&#8217;s testimony:</p>
<p>&#8220;That night I went to Michael’s house. He was in bed. I went in and I was talking to Him, and I asked Him if I could lie next to Him on His bed.<br />
He said I could but He told me that He first wanted me to ask my mom and dad. He told me that He always does things the RIGHT way. It was hard for me because I didn’t feel like I wanted to wait later, but I did. The next day I called my mom and dad and asked them about it. They HESITATED at first but then I told them I was not asking to be naked with Michael. I was asking to with both of our clothes on. They agreed to that. I felt unsure what I wanted. It was in my heart to lay naked with Michael, but I did not think I could and I was afraid to. My mom and dad could tell I was unclear what I wanted. That evening I went and said good night to Michael and told Him what my mom and dad said. He agreed also.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few days later (after yet another of her peers has slept with Wayne) she writes,</p>
<p>&#8220;I went to bed that night with it strong on me to lay naked with Michael. All the time since Michael shared with us about Danielle and Esther lying naked with Him I desired to lay naked with Michael. And when He shared about Moriah it became not only a desire, but that I had to lay skin to skin with Michael. At times I would be lying in my bed and it was almost like Michael was in my bed with me holding me skin to skin with Him. This particular night I was lying in my bed and I had been reading things in my journal. After I was done I was lying there and the desire became so intense that I did not want to be in my bed anymore. I wanted to be in Michael’s bed with Him. I wanted to lay naked with Michael so much that I thought about calling my mom and dad that night and asking them if I could. I thought that I would share it with Michael and see what He would tell me. I went up to His house. I went and stood at His window. I remember giving the desire to Father, and it was ok if He did not give it to me. I was out there for about half an hour then Michael called out the window and asked if someone was there. He asked me if something was on my heart and I said yes. He told me I could come in. He told me the he was just about to sleep and he heard a cracking sound, and He thought He would call out the window to see if anyone was there. He asked me what was on my heart, so I told Him. He asked me what I thought it would do for me. I told Him I didn’t know except that I needed something, something deeper. I was lying on His chest and He then said to me,<br />
“You may.” I didn’t move. I thought for some reason that He was spiritually speaking or something. He then asked me if I was scared and then I realized He really meant it. I said,<br />
“You really mean it? Right now, take my clothes OFF?” He said, “YES.”<br />
I said, “But I thought you said I had to get permission from my parents first?”<br />
He said, “Yes, but I remember they said they trusted Me. That is enough.” I said, “So I really can, right now?” He said, “Yes.” So, I jump off His bed, strip my clothes, and jumped in bed with Him. It felt so natural to me and it did not feel weird, almost like I had done it many times before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think a 13 year old, raised in this closed off environment, has the knowledge to know whether or not she is being touched in an innappropriate manner?  When all of her peers &amp; adult mentors are doing the same thing?  Is she not feeling peer pressure?  She self-admittedly states she is confused before it happens?  Do you not think her parents &#8220;trusted Wayne to do the right thing&#8221; and NOT touch their daughter?  Could he not have touched her&#8230;.oh, say&#8230;forehead, and healed her?  And this one has not been addressed in any forum: Why did only people of the female gender get skin to skin?  Is it pure coincinence that the only people that needed healing or to be part of the &#8220;religious parable&#8221; (nice one, Jeff) are female???</p>
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