Comments on: "Time-out" for Bent threads (except here) http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/ ...with Mark Horner Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:57:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: hornerscorner http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-354 hornerscorner Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:18:59 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-354 Dear Reader, I have decided to keep the comments sections related to the Wayne Bent/Strong City posts closed. While future comments might have yielded additional insights, I feel those moments would likely be few within the steady increase of personal attack-styled commentary. One alternative would be to weed-out the undesired comments. However, the frequency of comments on these threads has risen to a point where I must admit that I do not have the time to referee them with the immediacy and fair-handed treatment that they deserve. While closing the comment sections on these threads will result in less traffic coming to this blog, I am at peace with that consequence. I will continue to post updates to the Wayne Bent (aka Michael Travesser) story as it continues to unfold. My "stats" page indicates that many of you have already clicked the link for the new blog-offering from "fromthewoods." I wish that person the best with his/her effort. Because "fromthewoods" is also hosting his/her blog on WordPress, you'll notice that it looks similar to my blog. However, I want you to know that I am not affiliated with fromthewoods' blog nor do I know the identity of the blogger. I want to conclude this final comment on these threads by expressing my sincere appreciation to all of you who have chosen to visit Beyond90Seconds.com. As always, you are welcome to contact me. My contact information is located within the large blue tile in the right sidebar near the top of this page. Sincerely, Mark Horner Dear Reader,

I have decided to keep the comments sections related to the Wayne Bent/Strong City posts closed.

While future comments might have yielded additional insights, I feel those moments would likely be few within the steady increase of personal attack-styled commentary.

One alternative would be to weed-out the undesired comments. However, the frequency of comments on these threads has risen to a point where I must admit that I do not have the time to referee them with the immediacy and fair-handed treatment that they deserve.

While closing the comment sections on these threads will result in less traffic coming to this blog, I am at peace with that consequence.

I will continue to post updates to the Wayne Bent (aka Michael Travesser) story as it continues to unfold.

My “stats” page indicates that many of you have already clicked the link for the new blog-offering from “fromthewoods.” I wish that person the best with his/her effort. Because “fromthewoods” is also hosting his/her blog on WordPress, you’ll notice that it looks similar to my blog. However, I want you to know that I am not affiliated with fromthewoods’ blog nor do I know the identity of the blogger.

I want to conclude this final comment on these threads by expressing my sincere appreciation to all of you who have chosen to visit Beyond90Seconds.com. As always, you are welcome to contact me. My contact information is located within the large blue tile in the right sidebar near the top of this page.

Sincerely,
Mark Horner

]]> By: A Stranger http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-353 A Stranger Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:54:18 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-353 I have read over some of the comments here. I feel that it is a good thing to reveal truth. It would be good to state the truth and then let the truth speak for its self. It sounds like there have been many hurt feelings. But I would say that what so ever a man sows that shall he also reap. Yes offences must come but woe to the one that brings them. I believe in freedom of following God. I could not judge this man and say he is guilty of a crime because only he knows what is in his heart. I was not there when it happened so I do not know what happened, I only know what I have read and herd. I also have children and I would not want them taken from me. I can relate to the feelings of all involved here. I feel so sorry for Willow. I also feel for her parents. I also feel for the ones that have been hurt by there expierences in this group. But it is best to deal with the pain instead of causing more pain by lashing out at the ones that you feel have hurt you. Love your enemies and do good to those that curse you. I believe that it is not a church or beliefe that will save you but rather your heart connection with God. Only God knows the heart of man. He knows if your heart is sincere or not. That is why he is the judge and not us. We could only judge wrongly because we only see from the outside looking in. I personally have been through a hard life. One of religious laws. But now I truly feel that it is only a heart connection that will get you anywhere past this life. Sincerely, A Stranger I have read over some of the comments here. I feel that it is a good thing to reveal truth. It would be good to state the truth and then let the truth speak for its self. It sounds like there have been many hurt feelings. But I would say that what so ever a man sows that shall he also reap. Yes offences must come but woe to the one that brings them. I believe in freedom of following God. I could not judge this man and say he is guilty of a crime because only he knows what is in his heart. I was not there when it happened so I do not know what happened, I only know what I have read and herd. I also have children and I would not want them taken from me. I can relate to the feelings of all involved here. I feel so sorry for Willow. I also feel for her parents. I also feel for the ones that have been hurt by there expierences in this group. But it is best to deal with the pain instead of causing more pain by lashing out at the ones that you feel have hurt you. Love your enemies and do good to those that curse you. I believe that it is not a church or beliefe that will save you but rather your heart connection with God. Only God knows the heart of man. He knows if your heart is sincere or not. That is why he is the judge and not us. We could only judge wrongly because we only see from the outside looking in. I personally have been through a hard life. One of religious laws. But now I truly feel that it is only a heart connection that will get you anywhere past this life.

Sincerely,
A Stranger

]]> By: A Stranger http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-352 A Stranger Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:30:15 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-352 I found the conments. Sorry for the question. Sincerely, A stranger I found the conments. Sorry for the question.

Sincerely,
A stranger

]]> By: Azaniah http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-351 Azaniah Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:19:07 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-351 Dear Mark, What we at Strong City know, and Michael has said many times, which has brought about the events here is "do what's on your heart." Heaven is not a democracy but a knowing in your heart what the Living God is speaking and doing in you and laying down your life to allow Him to accomplish His purposes. The world is ever learning through its sociological, psycological, theological, ideological, ad infitum logical methods but never coming to the knowledge of the truth as it is in the Voice that speaks within. Thank you for doing what was, and is, on your heart.. Azaniah Dear Mark,

What we at Strong City know, and Michael has said many times, which has brought about the events here is “do what’s on your heart.” Heaven is not a democracy but a knowing in your heart what the Living God is speaking and doing in you and laying down your life to allow Him to accomplish His purposes. The world is ever learning through its sociological, psycological, theological, ideological, ad infitum logical methods but never coming to the knowledge of the truth as it is in the Voice that speaks within.

Thank you for doing what was, and is, on your heart..

Azaniah

]]> By: A Stranger http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-350 A Stranger Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:03:10 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-350 Hello To All, I have missed the conversation that has been going on here. Is there a place that I may ready what has been said pryer to this morning, Sincerely, A stranger Hello To All,
I have missed the conversation that has been going on here. Is there a place that I may ready what has been said pryer to this morning,
Sincerely,
A stranger

]]> By: ron http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-349 ron Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:38:53 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-349 My interest in this case really is from a sociological point of view. I have watched other cults, like Father Divine, for years, but this one is different. First of all, Wayne is a self-promoter. The NG special and his website show that this man has "potentially" broken the law, and it hit a nerve with a lot of people. If it were not for that, Wayne would be just another nut who has written himself into the bible. My interest in this case really is from a sociological point of view. I have watched other cults, like Father Divine, for years, but this one is different. First of all, Wayne is a self-promoter. The NG special and his website show that this man has “potentially” broken the law, and it hit a nerve with a lot of people. If it were not for that, Wayne would be just another nut who has written himself into the bible.

]]> By: hornerscorner http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-348 hornerscorner Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:26:33 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-348 Dear Reader, You can visit fromthewoods' blog by clicking <a href="http://fromthewoods.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">here.</a> Best, Mark Dear Reader,

You can visit fromthewoods’ blog by clicking here.

Best,
Mark

]]> By: hornerscorner http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-347 hornerscorner Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:28:50 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-347 From the Woods, I'm not about to tell anyone they can't host a topic on their blog. Best of luck! Sincerely, Mark From the Woods,

I’m not about to tell anyone they can’t host a topic on their blog. Best of luck!

Sincerely,
Mark

]]> By: fromthewoods http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-346 fromthewoods Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:24:39 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-346 Mr. Horner, if it is alright with you I'm going to continue hosting an open discussion regarding this topic over on my blog. If anyone would like to join in please click on my user name. Thanks! Mr. Horner, if it is alright with you I’m going to continue hosting an open discussion regarding this topic over on my blog.

If anyone would like to join in please click on my user name.

Thanks!

]]> By: EMC http://beyond90seconds.com/2008/06/12/time-out-for-bent-threads-except-here/comment-page-1/#comment-345 EMC Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:06:38 +0000 http://hornerscorner.wordpress.com/?p=255#comment-345 Mr. Horner - I've followed this story with great interest for several months now. I, too, appreciate the even-handed approach and the desire for civility which you have demonstrated here. It's a fine balance between allowing feedback and clarification and having your board, as others have, devolve into an accusation-slinging, turmoil-strewn battle of words between those of Strong City and the rest of the world. Personally, while the commentary is a fascinating insight sociologically, I think you have given this topic adequate space and it's time for the shots across the bow (and into the gut) to cease. Kudos for an outstanding reporting style and some very interesting information. Mr. Horner -

I’ve followed this story with great interest for several months now. I, too, appreciate the even-handed approach and the desire for civility which you have demonstrated here.

It’s a fine balance between allowing feedback and clarification and having your board, as others have, devolve into an accusation-slinging, turmoil-strewn battle of words between those of Strong City and the rest of the world.

Personally, while the commentary is a fascinating insight sociologically, I think you have given this topic adequate space and it’s time for the shots across the bow (and into the gut) to cease.

Kudos for an outstanding reporting style and some very interesting information.

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